kirschner for more on this. here's the question. criminal accountability. will they or will they not find it when it comes to the former president? it's really about proving intent here. did he intentionally take these records to mar-a-lago? did he intentionally destroy records or flush paper down a toilet as is being reported by certain white house staff? did he intentionally not use the white house phone so things weren't caught? how do they prove this, how do they figure it out and if they figure out there is intent, is there criminal liability? >> yasmin, here we go again. we've been having these academic discussions, i think, dating back to 2016 every time a potential trump crime is reported. of course, we started with the michael cohen campaign finance violations that donald trump seems to have engaged in to gain unfair advantage in the election, and each and every time, you know, we take out the old blue book of federal crimes, the u.s. code, we crack it open,