outside the capitol earlier today. i want to play just a little bit of our exchange. >> many innocent people we believe were sucked up and overcharged disproportioned to the people in the past. the same people who did it -- >> the people who did it with cortez didn't break windows and storm into the capitol building. >> we're not talking about people who broke doors and windows. >> people who did that with cav gnaw knew they shouldn't do that too. they were not turned into domestic terrorists. >> let's talk more about this. former dhs chief of staff. talked to him yesterday along with today. as i said to elson it seems very much like there's a distortion of reality of what took place. he was very clear about what he believes should happen to the