vet's hospital? something that connects you to the people in your immediate area that isn't about finding consensus about what's going to happen in the 2024 election is good for your community. it is good for your soul, and when things get very hard being able to look at other people in the eye recognize each other as humans can save your life. >> yeah, great. [ applause ] i've got another one. this is from pat s. in warwick, pennsylvania. this is completely out of the blue, and i don't think a single person in this audience has given this any thought but i'm going to ask it anyway. [ laughter ] >> okay, nice lead-in, good. >> what do you think of the latest polls? why do they show biden and trump neck and neck? [ laughter ] >> i don't know.