now and to limit the scope to just ukraine, and some people say that that's really smart because it's a simple thing that the public can really understand. it was a phone call in which he said that aid to ukraine was contingent upon them investigating his political rival. that's a really easy-to-digest narrative. and the problem is, it leaves out many other crimes that trump has allegedly committed, laid out in the mueller report. and so, i think there's just two different lines of thinking there. >> hey, peter, you wrote about the president's nato meeting overseas and you said that it provided no respite for trump. i mean, this could have been an opportunity for him to demonstrate global leadership, you know, despite what's happening at home with impeachment, right? >> yeah, absolutely. and in fact, he had an argument to make. the secretary-general of nato got up and said, look, nato allies are spending more on their defense. he attributed that to president trump's pressure, $130 billion more over the last three years, $400 billion collectively over eight years. that is a good talking point for