witnesses or if the president intends to have counsel present. the dilemma, of course, alex, is that the president, the white house, his allies, have said they don't believe this has been a legitimate process, and so it seems unlikely that they would want to engage. and yet, at the same time, they have also complained about not being a part of the process and afforded rights. so, he's in that middle ground of having to decide how much does he want to go all in on fighting impeachment, where impeachment is happening, or if he wants to sort of stay out of it and fight it more politically outside of capitol hill. alex? >> yeah, well, we have a little bit over 24 hours to decide which way he's going to turn in that one. kelly o'donnell, thank you from west palm beach. john nichols is national affairs correspondent at "the nation." john, with a welcome to you, i want to dig into what you did this week in washington as you spoke to members on the house judiciary committee. what are they telling you that they anticipate to happen in next week's proceedings? >> well, it's very interesting coming off kelly's report that what they're telling me is that