and i cleaned up transcriptions, by the way, that we took to get them right -- >> what do you mean by cleaned up? how would you clean them up? >> there's a lot of mystery here. let's talk about it in a little bit of detail. when president obama called putin or medvedev. he always did those in the oval office, not in the residence, like president trump did with president zelensky. i was always in the room. i was always sitting on the other phone in the oval office listening to the call, taking notes. i speak russian. i was taking notes in english and russian. in the white house situation room there were also more than one people listening to the call, tribing to the best of their ability, usually someone from my office, too, in the white house situation room listening to the call so we could reconstruct the transcript to the best of our abilities. but to move forward, it usually was classified as secret, not