stalled in the senate. but as you also said, it does remain to be seen whether what he said yesterday will change the calculus of any democrat in the senate. and that right now, that doesn't seem to be the case with both senators manchin and sinema there are much changes for debate. >> there's the ground rules pressure on the white house between democrats and republicans. we know that civil rights groups didn't even show up yesterday, explaining there's too much talk and not enough action. but if the phil buster is not going anywhere, darlene, what more can the president do? we saw him embrace the bully pulpit yesterday. i know you and your colleagues at the ap have reported he's not done as many interviews as other