it's different. and perhaps, should have been treated differently with donald trump. this guy, when he's president, he says you can't charge a precedent. when he's not president, he says his weaponization. ron desantis, who would love to see something bad happened to donald trump, is talking about the department of justice and fbi weaponization. no one on trump's side of the ledger will address this very big indictment and the details therein, which looked quite serious. >> well, the indictment is very serious. it's damning, and you know, all things being equal, it should result in that conviction. of course, we don't know whether but judge who tried to obstruct the search warrant and the examination of documents that aren't seized by the fbi at mar-a-lago is going to try to obstruct this prosecution. but i hope that is not the case. i also don't think the president can pardon himself.