it's going to be up to the supreme court. there is the possibility the court will say you can't pardon yourself, you can't be a judge in your own case. but given the supreme court, there is no guarantee. we can't count on them to reach a fair and just decision, and it was a shame that gerald ford pardoning nixon, because we wouldn't be going through even the question of can a former president be indicted. if my team had indicted him, something i very much wanted to do, while he was the sitting president, because i don't think the office of legal counsel opinion is a valid one. i don't think there is a constitutional impediment to indicting a sitting president, and there certainly is no question there isn't one for a former president. >> lays, you've held the same view. you felt that's the office of legal counsel information or guidance or whatever you are lawyers call it is that.