enthusiasm. we have, again, 175,000 grassroots donors and have been leading in both fund-raising and polling. i think it is a good indication of the grassroots enthusiasm that we have here for our campaign. but we're all good democrats in this race. and they are all running strong campaigns in that regard. and as i said, it is going to be a difficult year and ultimately i believe that the candidate that does things differently, the candidate that has a unique path is the one that is best suited to win in a state as difficult as pennsylvania is. >> what do you say to people who say you're too liberal? >> i would say that that's just not true. there isn't one person in this race that is running on anything different in terms of a platform that what i'm running on. and whether that's minimum wage, whether that's support for unions, whether that's support for gay and trans communities,