national television and they were appalled and furious for rudy giuliani for allowing her to say this. well, here's the problem. the president loved it. that's exactly what the president wanted, and so all of those voices of reason who said that this was insanity were drowned out by a president when was trying for any lever possible to hold on to that power and block biden from his rightful rise to the oval office. >> carol, you may have heard, i just had a conversation with steve berman and ari benen. in the last senate elections in new jersey the governor, and the republican running for governor didn't win, was relatively close and he eventually came out and said fairly early that hey, i lost the election, let's move on. it wasn't rigged. you said something on washington this week, republican officials on every level of the game from