election proclaiming that it was faked and rigged was actually put down in writing and the president was willing to consider it. he held a meeting with these very allies who were spouting these -- this crazy talk so that they could discuss how they could do it. what i think is really important to keep in mind, ali, about this is sydney powell's press conference. the one that you shared there in the small part, she claimed that sort of the ghost of hugo chavez had gotten into the machines essentially that through the dead hand of the venezuelan leader there had been this interference in our election. well, behind the scenes and i'm sure the january 6th committee will reveal this in painful detail, behind the scenes many of the people off camera who worked for donald trump were aghast. they said we can never have her do a press conference again. we cannot believe that this laughable thing has been said on