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inflation. you're worried about feeding people. your costs are grown dramatically but the audience you serve has not increased. >> actually, our audience has increased. we saw about a 60% increase of need here in indiana, but we were able to increase it about 30% from 2020, and your cost is very reflective of the reality in terms of cost, and people may not realize we offer a fleet of box trucks and even the diesel is substantial on us. >> what do you do about this, john? it's obvious everything you're saying to me, but for those of us who don't think about this on a daily basis, for those of us who are not food insecure, we're not clear how this affects you. what do you need to happen to address these inflationary costs? >> well, we obviously need financial and other support in all 200 feed america food banks,

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