allowing the child tax credit to expire and plunging 10 million people deeper into poverty. there is nothing moderate about turning a blind eye to climate change. that is not moderation. that is extremism. >> what do you say to people who are trying to be pragmatic? it has something to do with the fact that my seat is definitely in danger next time around and our majority is in danger. we're not sure how this is going to go over. dozen political expediency and maintaining the control of the house of representatives figure into your argument? >> yes, for the build back better act is popular. it is not just good government, but good politics. there is no greater threat to the democratic majority of the house and presidency of joe biden than government gridlock. it is coming from manchin and sinema.