>> well, it's a really good question. and i think what we would tell those people, what i do tell the people all the time is the emergency use authorization is not a shoddy, second-class way of approving a drug. it's a drug approval process that is absolutely required in a time of emergency. it's not like they -- the pfizer or moderna have issued a new drug and are saying let's get it done for tomorrow. it's still a pretty grueling process, really. and all kinds of tests, trials and assurances that the drug or the vaccine in this case will be safe. knows are underway. and there will be no emergency use authorization until a lot of people, a lot of experts are satisfied that it's both safe and effective. i think it's coming. can't come soon enough, in my view. >> and you are a pediatrician. what do you say to those people, even the liberals saying even now well kids are low risk and