i wasn't going to tell this story, erin and jen, but when i was in that jail cell the -- the commissioner, lashinda scales demonstrated how the door close it's and it locked on me and i was not sure this thing had been locked since 1967 and wasn't sure i would get out. looked in that cell probably about two minutes or so, but i definitely felt very claustrophobic and locked in and thought this man willingly went back to alabama knowing that he would be locked up on a trumped up silly charge about not getting a permit. that was one brave guy. we'll be backin just a moment. errin haines and jen brown, we're going to continue this conversation on the other side of this break. tion on the othee of this break. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty. ♪