chairman burr, i would have people looking at the rules governing how information is processed by the national security council. that's where there would be a violation of rule or regulation. from reading it, it is obvious he had a reasonable belief. >> you heard the comments the president made up in new york speaking to employees of the u.s. mission to the united nations, the way he talked about the whistle-blower, the analogy made to spice and treason that happened during that event. what effect will have that on the intelligence community as they think about perhaps making a claim like we saw last week? >> no question there is a chilling effect. but the important thing on a legal side is that the president is giving evidence of motive of reprisal here. if somebody goes after the whistle-blower at this point who works for the president, an investigators would look and say, well, why would somebody go after the whistle-blower. there are multiple statements in the press, speaking about the whistle-blower in a negative