not bode well for dhaka. and so there's a lot on the line in here but it is reassuring that the department of justice and the biden administration are willing to fight and move forward. >> what is your sense of why dhaka has been going through this long legal fight? i think of any of the issues related to immigration, at least in my conversations with various people across the country over the last few years, when it comes to children there seems to be a little bit more mercy. a little bit more understanding across the political spectrum in terms of, i can understand having strict immigration policies on drug cartels or things like that. but little kids, i'm not sure how we feel about that. why is this still a political football after all these years? >> that's a fair question, joshua. the polling that i look at time and time again shows that about 75% to 80% of the american people support dhaka. so you're right on that. this is with the american people want. they want to support our dreamers. they want a permanent solution.