evangelicals were then. that trend is playing out among people who sometimes call themselves ex-evangelicals. they reject the label evangelical and the political connotations that come with it. a growing number of them connect and support each other online. one facebook group has more than 10,000 members. its founder is blake chastain. he coined the #exevangelical on social media. he hosts the podcast exevangelical and joins us now. welcome to the program. >> thank you for having me. >> what do you make of this drop, of the poll results. does that reflect what you're seeing? >> yes, i believe so. what i would also say is actually this historical trend goes back farther than that. when we look even at some of the books that had been published, in 1993, there was a book published called "leaving the fold." ten years later, one was called