that regards too. a lot of the democrats are worried about how narrow the margins are. someone all of a sudden is hospitalized for an extended period of time because they take ill, the entire calculus changes. there's a sense of urgency too. >> philip bump of "the washington post," thanks very much. we mentioned that critics of the two plans say that neither of them does enough on climate change. let's continue now with one such critic. jamal raad is the co-founder of evergreen action, the group aims to build support for mobilization against the climate crisis. welcome to the program. good to have you. >> thanks for having me, joshua. >> could you elaborate some of your concerns about this plan. an adviser to your group wrote a piece in "the atlantic" that says that these bills are not enough. she wrote, washington cannot address a small sliver of our