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>> that's right, joshua. i mean this has been the most challenging week of his presidency. >> you've seen the harrowing images of people stuck in afghanistan trying to get americans, afghan allies out of there. obviously the explosions, the attacks on thursday and the retaliation, this has been a very difficult moment for the president. and they're continuing. as you say even as they try and pack up troops and equipment for the deadline, they'll continue to try to get people out of there in the final hours. think about the broader context here. this crisis in afghanistan unfolded as the president was already dealing with rising covid cases, increased anxiety about hospitalizations, those cases rising, the return to school for students amid the pandemic. and now you now have this hurricane bearing down. you mentioned at the top of the show we should try and take our breath and think about the week. the president certainly is not catching his breath. i think we know he's at the

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