and attempting to overthrow the election results. that's why we're seeing this investigation, and i suspect that is going to further influence whether we will see him move forward, not just january 6th, but all election interference. >> i left off the key part of our question, especially a formal indictment imminent. trump told the world that he would get the target level and we go today. what should we take from the fact that raffensperger and kemp are getting requests for information from the special counsel after that target letter went out. >> the easiest thing you can surmise from all this is jack smith can do a number of things at one time. he's not limited to just focus sane on mar-a-lago or january six. as the facts lead him to discover that more crimes have been committed, more indictments will come. >> one more question to you, charles, before congress, i promise i'll come to you, we're talking about two overlapping