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safe the world for our young people to come out to be exactly who they are. >> julie, i want to dive in in the time we have left about some of the things, some of the how to's you tell folks to do, especially if they go to a local school board meeting. but fact-based arguments only. organize in real-time with text messages. no applause, jazz hands. i want you to explain. avoid and replace divisive language. explain why no applause, jazz hands. >> well, number one, it can be distracting and it can also limit your time. most of the time when you testify or speak at a school board meeting, it is timed. and so you don't want to have a lot of folks clapping and taking away time for you to be able to get your point across. jonathan, i also wanted to make the point with you our group is not just progressive moms. we are moms all over the

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