limb here. manchin has been clear. i mean, if you listen -- we have to kind of try to separate the signal from the noise. what manchin has said, fine, make it a talking filibuster and to hold the floor while expressing their opposition, but if you take it the next step, i've talked to manchin about this, i've heard sinema talk about it with other folks, they say, well, in order to get out of the talking filibuster you still need 60 votes. so that's a change but not a huge change unfortunately for filibuster reform advocates. i want to focus on what eric said which is absolutely correct. yes, it seems you could make the case that it's undemocratic to have one senator control the entire agenda, but that is the united states senate in a 50-50 senate. it's unfortunate for joe biden, but you have to -- i find myself saying this a lot in this congress.