it wasn't a -- peaceful transition of power. and, you know, one of the issues that always happens throughout the cold war, we would talk to the, you know, soviet leaders about, you know, human rights than would say, okay look at the problems of your country look at the problems of african-americans and minorities and women. and they were right. and, you know, 50 years later, 30 years later, however you want to put it, we still have those problems. so, you know, i mean, we can go after the, you know, the chinese and the russians but we still have enormous problems here. >> you know one of the people who spoke out forcefully about that insurrection that you lived through, john, is congresswoman liz cheney of wyoming. she was in the leadership at the time. he's been run out of leadership because she kept speaking truth to power. she's in the cross hairs of