that the case? all of that is traced back to a fear. it's a fear that the country has fundamentally changed in a diverse, multiethnic way. and they don't like that. i believe that there is a number of voters in our country today that back donald trump that fundamentally don't believe that all men and women are created equal. and i think that's fundamentally where we are today. i don't think they are afraid of donald trump. i think they are afraid of the mob donald trump stands in front of and that's, i think, where the republicans really fundamentally are. they are afraid of the group of voters in their primary that will beat them because they're not interested in facts. they're not interested in truth and they're really only interested in ends justify the means approach to our democracy. >> you know, matthew, i agree with you, that a lot of the folks who are supporting -- say they are supporting donald trump, it's really about exercising their fear about the demographic change in this country and their being moved from the center of everything,