sure folks know, the 60th anniversary of the march on washington's august 28th. what do you hope people take away from rustin? >> i hope they take away, one of the things that i find deeply moving, it is one of those times where america came together. not everybody, but the vast majority of people. you know, bayard was hopeful that 100,000 people would show up. 250,000 people showed up from all over the country. mayors and union organizers came in. mayor wagner, the mayor of new york came at the time, after bayard him -- so that people from all over the city could get to their destination so they could take buses, they could make it to washington b.c., so they could march. it was this collective, it sprang from a collective, and it was the country coming together because they believed the issues that were being