reach rich friends are out to make him a national cultural icon. the question is why. >> i think in some part, in response to what happened around the notorious rbg, who does become a national, if not international cultural rock star. in a move that is really ground up, you know, that is driven by young women lawsuits, who are reading in shelby county. we get movies, we get an entire cult of personality around rbg that in some sense, actually probably hurt the country. it might have been slightly responsible for her failure to step down when she should have. and probably is responsive, responsible chevrons collective sense that we don't need to do anything about the court, rbg is handling it. i think in response to, that there is an effort to stop puppet that up. to make it happen for clarence thomas. not from the ground up, not because they were writing songs to him and making movies, but