violent is perfectly villainous. every heroes perfectly virtuous. but life, and history, which is reported life. is it like that and so we have to figure out a way to understand each other. the book is an attempt to do. that all of the films have attempted to do that. and nothing is ever achieved if you run away and put your head in the sand and don't confront the really tough stuff. >> it's so brilliant. it's so brilliantly said. no one is perfectly good, no one is perfectly evil. but there is a factor in this country that is demanding that, for instance, the founding fathers beeper to that's perfectly good. otherwise, they won't allow anything else to be taught in schools. >> if we assume that we're the most exceptional country on earth, why wouldn't we be harder on ourselves than anything? and it's not harder. it's just too. you want to look at this fact, the guy who articulated to still a century of enlightenment thinking, into one sentence we hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal on