president obama, whether it was all the way back to clinton to now joe biden, they feel like the democratic party has never promised it. right now, the problem i'm having with my listeners, what am i supposed to tell them other than, look, man, donald trump is a fascist. you may think things can't get worse, but they positively can. if they feel like, i have already lived through a trump presidency, i lived through reagan. how much worse can that get? what do i tell them. they're not afraid of telling them to vote because of fear gm. >> we all watched what happened that's the base that's going to vote for him, right? >> that's the basic got him the 2020 election. yeah, so when you're thinking about things like we both talked about the sexy red thing, off line. people are like, i got a steamy with donald trump's name on it. i know i've got it. when biden sent me has to be, i don't remember. it on gaza, it's a complicated thing. black folks see those