in jail. again, we this week were talking about his lawyer going into a federal court and saying that donald trump, the president of the united states, a president, i guess he doesn't think joe biden should be able to, should be able to assassinate their political opponents. now you have his buddy allegedly saying he wants to assassinate members of congress, and his former defense secretary said he wanted him to shoot people, and he wouldn't do it. >> it's thuggery. but here's -- here's what i want to say in a political context of it all. go back to 2004. and when i was doing polling for the dnc. one of the things that was a bedrock of republican party and something that helped them win the suburbs and especially moderate middle america was the idea they were a party of strong values. they were a party of strong morals and values. and even if democrats had advantage on education and issues of health care, the