believes that ukraine can actually win this war by defeating all of the strategic objectives of the russians. they've already done it by stopping them at essentially not even their first major phase. so why not help them? >> it does seem just sort of, not as an expert at all russia is losing at this stage, lieutenant colonel vindman and all of the ukrainians need, they obviously have the will to fight and heart for it. they just need a little bit of help. why do you suppose the focus remained on a no fly zone at least from the president of ukraine? >> first, let me say i love malcolm's optimism. i wish i shared it. i think there is a real very good chance the ukrainians could block the russians from achieving their strategic objectives, at least the initial strategic objectives but the punishing grinding war that's about to unfold could develop in