so i talk to friends and relatives in kyiv so they're telling me and telling others what is going on. they send pictures so information is available but sanitized by other narratives and forbidden to use words like war, like occupation. we're supposed to call it special operation. >> let me go to you tom, i've been fascinated watching the back and forth with adam kinzinger that serves this nation in the united states military and a member of the united states congress and a pretty knowledgeable guy. i've been surprised how many people are raising the prospect that nato should get involved, that nato should do something because that is world war iii. can you just sort of walk us through this why because it feels, i think it feels horrifying to a lot of americans to watch people suffer, although we did it in syria and chechnya and other places. but to watch people suffer and die without nato acting. can you just walk us through why