under the rules, so he can pretend it is climate change. climate change ... know it is not. >> that's right, when he was governor, one of the last things that he did before he came to the senate 2010, he's worked to grant them bill, signing the renewable energy bill. they were going to get their grid from a hunter percent coal to 75% coal. the rest would be renewable and alternative energy, he put in per vision and they're that alternative energy would include waste coal, which is incredibly significant for the environment. he said this should count as part of west virginia's alternative energy portfolio, along with natural gas and other fossil fuels. >> it is remarkable to me that this has not been something that has been focused on as people thought that they can have some black posture convince them, or civil rights people, no you can't. when someone's financial interest is over, here it will stay over here no matter what