you're dealing with today -- i'm not familiar with it. it's difficult. i'm having a phone issue every day, just learning to turn the phone on. i mean, just going into public restrooms and sticking my hand out, a paper towel will come out, the soap will come out. they didn't have that kind of system back then. just little things. there's a lot. just the roadways. navigating roadways is something. it's nothing familiar about this, to me. >> it is, it's like -- almost like you went to sleep in 1978 and woke up and there's this whole new world. you're on a zoom right now, that was something that wouldn't have been familiar to you. it is unfathomable to me. even worse what is you've lost as a human being. you lost your mom. was there family who you knew