were other victims out there that would have liked to have seen them added themselves added to the list, it's possible the government interviewed them and decided i don't -- i see them as like 80%, 70% helpful to us. we're only going to bring the ones that we think are absolute sure things because we're the government, we don't like to lose. >> and okay, bias defense attorney, what could possibly be her defense? >> we got a preview of it. it's two magic words, empty chair. in other words, the real bad guy they're going to argue was jeffrey epstein and the government couldn't hold on to him. he died in prison. they don't have him to prosecution anymore but they will make sure somebody suffers for what jeffrey epstein did and all they'll tell you about is this woman as it says in the indictment took these ladies to movies, took them shopping, that's not enough to hold her accountable for what jeffrey epstein did.