that's happening and i don't know this judge in charlottesville but the judge in charlottesville praised the open white nationalist for how wonderfully they did in representing themselves and for being so wonderful in the courtroom and having such a civil trial. these people like danced when one of the victims talked about the pain they felt that being brutalized. this is about the death of a young woman. these people sort of laughed at her -- and i mean, the judge was praising that. there is something happening in our society, dean, where the right has -- this part of the right has decided that violence, killing, there is no tho shall not kill. violence. >> that judge said the mandate was unconstitutional so gives you an idea of his politics. he did stop richard spencer a few times during opening statements spewing hate.