publishing houses and they said no book exists with a black female protagonist that's a crime solver in a wide spectrum and when i heard this character does not exist in the literary world of thrillers, it was inspiring for me to keep going. >> and, you know, this is so personal for you. you tragically did lose your older sister to a crime of domestic violence. so you take very personally these stories of loss and you do such a brilliant job in interviewing victims on your show, the tamron hall show. talk about this issue of missing black girls and trying to get their stories out because that is what, you know, this incredible crime fighter jordan manning is trying to do. >> she is following this case but really, joy, she's inspired to something in 1997. i was in dallas and 1997, i covered the death of an 11-year-old child then i moved to chicago, another 11-year-old