they have needed to release those, in order to make a persuasive argument to hold mark meadows in contempt. a lot of those messages were released in the contempt report that the committee handed out a few months ago. we're still waiting on whether or not the doj is going to ultimately take up that contempt referral. but, there is a fine line that were straddling to apply public pressure, to get people like sean hannity to cooperate, versus holding back some of these messages and holding -- public presentation is possible, to draw the american public. and >> yet, some of the things we have our splash-y and explosive, and drawing the american public and. the text messages sent to mark meadows from rick perry, a day after the election, which is essentially a pit strategy, aggressive strategy, in typical