of josh hawley saying, oh, our base, this is what we want. well, our base wouldn't be this base if the leadership acknowledge the facts and truth at the very beginning. >> so, let me ask -- you >> after the election. >> what is the trigger, then, for mcconnell to do this? because that's as forceful as he has been about this issue. maybe there is not a ton of debate going on in the republican party. but there is one around whether embracing the january 6th rioters is a liability or advantage come november. some, maybe mitch mcconnell himself, but someone has decided it is a liability. >> it is a liability and it is probably reflected in their internal polling. mitch is nothing if not calculating. mitch is nothing if not dialed in. and so while josh hawley thinks, yet, this is where the republican base is, it's a small portion of the republican base that buys into what the rnc did, relevant to the potential loss come this