it's remarkable. >> yeah, basically they spent thanksgiving there and several days before that, compiling supposed evidence of fraud that they were getting over through open so sources, the people submitting affidavits. once they were compiling all of this, ali, was it done all, this they began to imagine. okay, since we can come conclusively expert -- conclude fraud, how can this be used for trump to reverse the election? that, in turn, is what led to this military option you were talking to before, general flynn was promoting the idea that voting machines and backup balance could be seized in six contested states, using the national guard, because they had very good cybersecurity unit in them and u.s. marshals. that, once they had these machines and ballots, then with what president wanted, he could have it on tv, all for them to