trying to keep this a low-profile thing while also working behind the scenes to use this to get voting rights done? >> look, i think -- i don't know what game folks are playing and i think it's dangerous to get too much into chess. we're playing checkers. we want them to represent us, to pass this change, we want them to pass voting rights reform. so we have tools at our disposal. this isn't just us watching from the sidelines hoping that joe manchin comes to the right decision or that any other democrat does. we can push them. 60, 70 years democrats have been meeting every tuesday for a lunch discussion. that's happening tomorrow. they discuss the debt ceiling, the build back better reform. if you're saying i wish my senator was fighting for this, give him a call tomorrow and say