awareness of the issues. but, again, those are just examples of how the racial undertones and possibly the thoughts of the defendants were then carried on by their defense counsel. to be able to label and try to exclude only black pastors when so many pastors were absolutely disgusted by these facts. that, again, is the racial undertones. to strike so many qualified african americans from the jury. again, the prosecutor started the trial and said he thought there might have been intentional discrimination, but let the case proceed. all of these things are still evidence that there is systemic racism that the system does not always work for african americans. and we need to get to the heart of it in order to be able to have a justice system that really works for everyone. >> gwenn keys-flemming, thank you for your time.