senate rules, are there things that can be done at the state level short of just litigating every one of these cases that could in some systematic way provide the kind of protections you're talking about? or is this something for which there is only a federal remedy? >> so a federal remedy is best but if congress doesn't act in this area it is incumbent on all of us to take the necessary actions. that means in blue states, by the way, improving voting laws substantially from where they are in many states where democrats have the ability to make voting easier. it includes recruiting and training and making sure that good people are filling the slots of local election officials. there's been a lot of reporting recently about how good election officials are being driven out of their positions because trump crazies are driving them out. of course the courts have to be a piece of this. i started my career as a recount