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order. i know that you have been a very vocal, very impassioned supporter four of the for the people act in the senate. we don't know if democrats are going to find a way to get that bill to joe biden's desk. what is the best hope that you think is out there in terms of trying to turn this around? >> look, i view my role to buy time for democracy. we have -- if we can buy time by fighting off the worst of these provisions and give the political process an opportunity to rationalize itself. have congress passed the for the people act, that's great. if we can buy time for our democracy and maybe have some shift within the republican party, that is stops viewing people voting as as an exhibition shull threat to the party. rather, they starts to do view space for all americans as a goal we should expire to. but maybe we succeed. but look, i'm not overly optimistic. all i can do is every day, wake up and try to protect democracy

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