moment like this. and her advice on that front was kind of a showstopper. i mean, i'll tell you from my own purposes at that point i kind of thought the interview was going to go on, but when she said that the only thing i could think to do was to say good night, let's go to commercial, i have to think about this. here's what she told me. is there anything you would say to people who have never dealt with him personally but the country is all sort of dealing with him personally right now in terms of what to expect or how to mitigate any negative consequences in how he might react in response? >> the days for mitigation seem to be gone, but i will say he will once he gets through this and he probably will -- he will exact revenge on a lot of people, a lot of people. >> former executive vice president at the trump -- >> he will exact revenge. he will exact revenge on a lot of people. i was like okay, good night. i have to think about that. i mean, that seems like a