it's really very vague about what a senate trial should be except for the fact there should be one and the chief justice should be there presiding. >> okay, and on that point of how the senate is going to conduct this, we also just saw unfold in that press conference right after the vote tonight, michael, where the speaker and the intelligence committee chairman and the judiciary committee chairman are taking questions from reporters. and what arises quickly is the revelation there's actually no commitment yet from the house, from the speaker that she is going to deliver those articles of impeachment to the senate so they can use them as the basis of the senate trial to potentially remove president trump from office. a long back and forth in which she would not talk about when that is going to happen. then she was pressed to commit that it eventually would happen, she said, she's not raising that prospect that she won't deliver the articles to the senate. that was raised by reporters. she was disavowing that as her own idea but refused to commit to send them over.