if the whistle-blower was subpoenaed other from that committee or richard neal of the ways and means committee in the house, would that make a difference in terms of the whistle-blower threat or in terms of the protections? >> i think it would give some comfort to the whistle-blower that he has some legal basis, he's being compelled to testify. but it still creates the tension if there's some legal prohibition from sharing this information because it doesn't fit with that definition what a whistle-blower may bring forward, what i would advise him to do if i were his lawyer to go to court and it's a face-off. on the one hand you're not supposed to disclose this information and on the other you have a subpoena from congress and i would turn it over to a judge and just a friendly ruling to sort of bless it. >> in terms of the decisions that are being made by the chairman here, richy neal, congressman neal from the ways and means committee is obviously involved in his own court fight