2020 elections. and this is very serious moment in our history, and this was quite frankly unconstitutional. >> so ben rhodes was on with me a little while ago and he was making the point that republicans traditionally would not have accepted this. not just interference in congressionally approved money which is its own issue but perhaps the more important issue that the $391 million was approved by congress on a bipartisan basis because it was an important thing to do from a national security perspective. our ally, ukraine is in hot water with russia. >> there's clearly a double standard, and it's clear to me this administration is a lawless administration. and remember senator mitch mcconnell said they were going to do everything they could do to stop president obama's agenda whatever it was. so believe you me this double