conference with president putin and prime minister orban of hungary where putin says, second, as we all know, during the presidential campaign in the united states the ukrainian government adopted a unilateral position in favor of one candidate. more than that, certain oligarchs certainly with the approval of the political leadership funded this candidate or female candidate, to be more precise. mr. holmes, you spent three years as well in the u.s. embassy in russia. why would it be to vladimir putin's advantage to promote this theory of ukraine interference? >> first of all, to deflect from the allegations of russian interference. second of all, to drive a wedge between the united states and ukraine, which russia wants to essentially get back into its sphere of influence. >> so at these open hearings we have this dramatic warning from fiona hill that makes headlines nationwide, right? she's warning congress, particularly warning the republicans on the impeachment